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6:59 am April 4, 2009
| Jason
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Chelsea said:
Hah! Well, all the same I am happy that Divine Comedy is on a uphill slope in terms of better sketches, with or without my rerun ideas. I personally don't attend the “Best of Show” because I don't want to see the repeats so soon after just seeing them…but if you did show cool old sketches from say 4 years ago or so, I might go then.
Side thought: Why can't you guys use the DeJong Concert Hall for your shows? More seats right? (and I think that's where the Divine Comedy DVD was filmed…)
Well, there will be some new stuff at this BoS (Best of Show). We've got a new installment of "Things You Should Take More Seriously," a brand new song parody and a couple of others. I don't know if less than 20% material is worth shelling out another five bucks for though, it's up to you. I know I wouldn't.
As for our venue, thats an interesting question. Three years ago DC was advised from many people to either charge more for tickets or go to a bigger venue. They opted for the latter. All shows that school year were done in the JSB audtiorium. It was a disaster of biblical proportions. Since more people could come to every show, most people didn't see any reason to come to the BoS. I remember being backstage at both BoS's that year and the attendance was abysmal. While it was amusing to watch my friends go out and "die" in front of fifty people, It proved that DC has to artifically keep demand high or else it makes the BoS irrelevant.
The Varsity Theater, it seems, has become the standard venue for DC, barring a few schedulng mishaps this season. It's slightly larger than the old defacto venue, TNRB 151. From what I understand, there just isn't a satisfactory venue on campus that is the right size to step up seating numbers while still allowing us to keep demand high enough that BoS won't be a colossal failure. I have been told that the HFAC is basically off limits to us as it is reserved for real TMA productions.
This of course brings up the question of the nature of the BoS. I'm probably in the minority of the cast (as usual), but I don't like what the BoS has become. For one, I absolutely loathe having to do the headliners again. They take up almost half the show and it leaves little room for other sketches. Especially classic sketches. As is the case with all performers, strong personalities and big egos come into play (I'm the strongest and the biggest, or at least the most obnoxious) and old sketches are the first to be cut at Tech Show because there is nobody to champion them.
If I had my way, which will never happen, so don't worry. I would say we do three all-new shows fall semester and two all-new shows and a real BoS for winter semester. That BoS would be a real "Best of," culling the best sketches of the current year and years gone by, not just a lame compilation of the last two shows. There is nothing special about the BoS nowadays, no additional draw.
Of course this plan can never happen. For various reasons, not the least of which because my ideas are always immediately shot down because I'm so brazen and unapologetic. Also, I shoot everyone elses ideas down all the time, so it's only fair. We're just not prepared to make the sacrifices in writing and rehearsal time it would require to make an extra all new show. Perhaps if we were paid…
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6:25 pm April 4, 2009
| Laurel
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So just to clarify something, we were actually told we could do shows in the HFAC if it didn't conflict with mainstage productions, but there were a few too many drawbacks. The Pardoe theater is actually the perfect size (large stage, around 550 seats, etc.) but the feel of the theater is totally not a DC show. For one thing we could never throw food in there and we'd be lucky if we could get away with glowsticks. Also, the seats are rigid and the enitre theater is very formal-which is fine, but Divine Comedy is supposed to be fun and casual. A place where you can kick back and savagely fight over glowsticks without feeling like you might ruin the plush seat you're on. Also, the drawback to the JSB and other large venues. is that it loses some of the intimite feel of Divine Comedy. It would be even more so in the DeJong and I know the glowsticks wouldn't make it to the back of the auditorium if we'd even be allowed to throw them.
I also don't think the DVD that DC did several years ago was filmed on-campus. I can't remember where it was exactly. I think it might have been at the SCERA. It was a reunion with old members, so it would have been really hard to get a BYU performance space unless it was organized through BYU (which it wasn't-I think it was mostly Rob Marsh.)
As far as true best-ofs from all the years gone by, that's what we were hoping to do with summer renuion shows like the one 2 summers ago. Then you get the best-of skits with some of the original performers too.
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8:16 pm April 4, 2009
| Jason
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Thank you for the clarification Laurel.
I'm just operating off of what I've been told. It's like that telephone game. Hilarious.
Anyway, I'm usually out of the loop, and for good reason.
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11:12 pm April 4, 2009
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Jason, you might be on to something with doing just one best of show at the end of the year. I do realize that doing three shows of all new material in the first semester would put a tremendous strain on cast and crew to, in effect, come up with an entirely new show in a small amount of time to put on a third show before finals week in Dec. But, that could be alleviated by just doing 2 shows the fall semester, and then 2 shows in winter with a Best of at the end of that winter. It would be tough to decide which headliners to do (because there would be no possible way of doing 4 headliners in one show), but maybe the cast should just reach a consensus on the what the best headliner was for the whole year, and just do one headliner at Best of (I know, reaching a consensus on the headliner is much easier said than done) But, hey, I think this idea is worth a shot.
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12:59 am April 5, 2009
| Jason
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Is having a headliner in the BoS really even necessary? If you're doing the cream of the crop from the entire year and the best from years gone by, shouldn't that be enough to draw a crowd?
Yeah, you're right, it probably isn't.
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3:43 pm April 7, 2009
| Ryan
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I like Paul's suggestion of one BoS show a year. That would hopefully force the group to work together to find what was really funny to bring back to the crowd. I myself remember the days before I was in the group enjoying seeing skits from years past in the BoS. Watching new cast members perform in roles familiar to old fans is a great way to show the continuity of the group. With the BoS simply becoming a celebtration of the current group it seems somewhat self-serving and shallow.
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6:46 pm April 7, 2009
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Wow! I never knew my fellow cast-mates hated doing the best-of every semester so much! I don't think it would be a good idea to get rid of it, simply because a lot of people I know usually go to only the best-of because of time constraints, and so they like seeing a sum-up of the semester. If the audience didn't like the best-of, then tickets wouldn't sell…and yet….they do. I think people would get upset if we took it away. If the reason behind doing only one best-of is because the members want new material and need to promote teamwork within a cast of 9-11 people, that seems even more self-seving then making 1,000+ people happy at the end of the semester. I guess I look at DC as a service to the student body, and so if they're happy with the number of shows, why change it? We're here to make people happy!
PS One more thing I forgot to mention-when we performed all shows in the JSB we actually sold more tickets than when shows were in the Tanner or even the Varsity. The problem is that even if the JSB is 2/3 full, you still feel like you're in an empty cavern and the energy drops. The other problem is IT for the JSB is so $&%# expensive that the costs almost equalled the additional revenue from more seats sold, so it was not making us any money. I love the Varsity. It's intimate but a little bigger than the Tanner, and it has a backstage!!!!!! 
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8:56 pm April 7, 2009
| Jason
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I disagree with the notion that DC is a service to the BYU student body. If it were, our shows would be free. They're not. DC is a product.
If there were one BoS a year, it would make it truly special. And at the same time, make all the other shows more special and unique.
We should probably start another thread to discuss things… this one has gotten completely off topic.
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1:19 pm April 8, 2009
| Ryan
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Just to be clear, I didn't dislike doing two best of shows a year, I just thought that Paul's suggestion could work just as well and make things more interesting. My main concern was with the tendency for BoS to be a show that focuses on the current semester, with everyone jockeying for their scripts to be put in the show, rather than a chance for the audience to experience the actual "best" of Divine Comedy. This is not necessarily a critique of the current cast, rather it's a concern that I and others have discussed over the last few years particularly in the way that headliners tend to take up so much time in a BoS when there are often other, more deserving scripts that could be used in their place.
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1:30 pm April 8, 2009
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I think Laurel has a point. I knew a lot of people as well that would just attend Best of at the end of semester, and DC has been successful with the exsisting format for many years. Although when I was in the group, I wish we would have done more skits from previous years at Best Of. I realize the difficulty in getting a Best of with lots of old material:
1) the original writers and cast aren't there to provide insight, direction, or their own personal touch that might have made the skit popular, let's face it, could ANYONE replicate Alex Kirry's pony-tailed, Mitsubishi-Eclipse loving summer sales rep (certainly one of my favorite and funniest DC characters ever), or Trevor's Mr. Teacherson, or Natalie's Eunice Hurlabus, or Peyton or Will or Joel, etc.
2) Best of provides a nice break, there isn't usually a lot of time between Nov/March show and Best of and finals is right around the corner, so it is nice and comfortable to slip into auto-pilot on scripts you have already memorized and performed many times so recently, old material that cast member might not be familiar with just adds that much more to the already trying work load.
3) At least in my case, I had never seen a DC show before I joined, so I was simply not aware of older skits and too lazy to read through hundreds of scripts in the archives to find something I liked.
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4) When it comes time to cut skits after Tech shows, old material is the first to go. Current cast members are not attached to it and original cast/writers are not there to back it up. Sometimes we cut old skits even if they did well in Tech shows, simply because people wanted to stick with material they had written (and I completely understand why)
Even though there are difficulties I think most of them could be overcome, perhaps there should just be a greater awareness when compiling material for Best Of. Jason, I agree with you that having just one Best of at end of the year would be an exciting, big production, and certainly be truly special. But my proposed format (2 shows in Fall, 3 shows in Winter) would mean we'd be doing one less show during the year. Many people look forward to Best of at end of semester, plus it seems that at least one cast member leaves at the end of every semester mid-year and a Best Of show is a nice send off.
Laurel, don't get me wrong, I loved doing Best of the shows, perhaps I was just thinking of the AWFUL Dec 2006 Best of Friday 7 show when we sold only 175 tickets in the nearly 900 seat JSB auditorium (wow, that was a tough show to do, it was certainly not a "Best Of"…not even close). But now that the show is in the Varisty (an outstanding venue by the way), we're able to fill the JSB up at the end of each semester (or at least come pretty close).
P.S. doing this skit synopsis with Matt Stringham has gotten me thinking about the show alot lately, and it has been tons of fun to read through old scripts and re-discover some of the gems, here's a topic I would like to hear from the rest of cast (current and former)
Favorite skits that somehow never got done in Best Of:
Christmas Vacation: Ryan, remember this one where Taylor was Taylor Who from Who-ville and everyone had christmas vacations that paralled classic christmas movies and songs? Peyton got his eye shot out with a BB, Jono as Home Alone Kid, Frosty the Snowman/Compost Heap. This was a great skit that totally got the shaft and not put in Best of and will probably never be performed again, what a shame!
First Mormon Thanksgiving: Matt and me as Indians teaching the Pioneers how to make Mormon staples like green jello and funeral potatoes (in native tongue: ho-chi-chi-ka-pa and ches-qau-ne). The line about topping off the funeral potatoes with Western Family Brand Flakes-o-maize…priceless.
Ultimate One-Stop: another overlooked classic where Peyton introduces a student to a new One-Stop where literally every service imaginable is available. Peyton's character was so great, Missionaries: "We want to talk to you about Where did we come from? Why are we here? and Where are going after this life?" Peyton: "And our goal is to make the answer to all three of those questions…ONE-STOP!"
BYUSA: Matt wrote a good one where clubs on campus cleverly form to become the Village People and sing BYUSA to the tune of "YMCA" from the chorus…"we have everything, but do nothing at all, we will always drop the ball!"
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3:44 am April 12, 2009
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Personally, what I'd love to see, especially if we're in the Varsity Theater (or another room that doubles as a classroom) is have a DC member stand at the podium and start teaching a "real" class–i.e., start off with standard "good Mornings," etc., then launch into a lecture. the Lecture is on a funny topic, possibly a BYU Cliche blown way out of proportion.
Of course, the cast member's dead serious this whole time.
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10:24 pm April 18, 2009
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DMG said:
Personally, what I'd love to see, especially if we're in the Varsity Theater (or another room that doubles as a classroom) is have a DC member stand at the podium and start teaching a “real” class–i.e., start off with standard “good Mornings,” etc., then launch into a lecture. the Lecture is on a funny topic, possibly a BYU Cliche blown way out of proportion.
Of course, the cast member's dead serious this whole time.
:D And plant DC members in the audience who ask all the questions that, as a student, you never ask!
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2:14 am April 14, 2010
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